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Seth: “The spacious present obviously contains all of these systems, and these systems are open systems, for the energy that composes them is the same.” (96)

According to Seth’s cosmology we constantly change our past in the same way as we make selections from probable future events. Both, past and future are created in the ‘now’, even though our scientists are not yet aware of this time phenomenon. ‘The past and the future ripple outward from any event.’ (97) From our point of view, past events are facts, historically fixed and as such undisputable and irrevocable, even though we have the impression that we can alter the way how we approach and judge past events ‘over time’. For us the past is the bedrock of our present, the cause of the effects in the ‘now’. It brought us to the point where we are. Actually, this impression of a linear space-time continuum is provided by the physical structure of our nerve apparatus and the specific pattern in which data and signals are neurologically transmitted and processed. Thus we are used and conditioned to perceive and recall a given set of events in a logical, linear order. At any moment they appear to be valid and historically fixed, but they are nevertheless continuously being created and re-created by us in the present, and they can be changed. Normally we would not recognize that.

Seth: “You change your past continually. It does not appear to change to you, for you change with it…you alter your future in the same manner”. (98)

Seth: “The ‘you’ that you presently conceive to be represents the emergence into physical experience of but one probable state of your being, who then directs corporeal life and ‘frames’ and defines all sense data. When your ideas about yourself change, so does your experience.” (99)

At this point the teachings of Bashar should be revisited: we are constantly recreating our own reality in line with the frequencies of our belief systems, billions of times per second (at the rate of Planck time). As we are shifting across parallel realities, we find ourselves in a new universe from moment to moment to moment as a new person who has a new past. Because we make new connections to the reality frames that constitute our past. It is interesting that in this context Seth was also using the term ‘frames’ for his own description of the creation of time experiences in the spacious present. Thus, the parallels between the two cosmologies are significant and it is no real surprise that according to the information provided by Seth we can actively change our past by changing our belief systems in the present. Healing in form of spontaneous remissions by establishing a strong faith in health would be such a case in point. Thus the past can be consciously changed on an individual level, but it can also be modified on a collective level.

Seth: “A new belief in the present can cause changes in the past on a neuronal level. You must understand that basically time is simultaneous. Present beliefs can indeed alter the past. In some cases of healing, in the spontaneous disappearance of cancer, for instance, or of any other disease, certain alterations are made that affect cellular memory, genetic codes, or neuronal patterns in the past”. (100)

Seth: “Those principles which I gave you as applying to the individual must obviously apply to nations and to peoples. Therefore if the individual can change his own past then it must follow that a people can change its past, that a nation can change past events.” (101)

All the different probabilities and timelines represent various angles and perspectives of a multidimensional, infinite act, i.e. Seth’s definition of the soul. Multidimensional events and activities are conceptualized, organized and implemented by this larger entity and then physicalized and experienced by us and through us on its behalf as individual projections in a 3D reality game. We are players, taking on crucial functions, but as long as we are incarnate we cannot understand the dimensions of the larger, encompassing activities, nor the division and assignment of our parts leading to our personal life experiences.

Source: “The psyche is awareized energy, in a state of constant creativity; a psychic pattern multidimensionally expressed; each point within it changing in relationship to all other points, and thus altering the entire pattern or model. Each self is immersed in the psyche, yet immersed in its own individuality simultaneously, experiencing reality in time and out of it at once.” (102)

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Seth: “The soul could be considered as a prime identity that is in itself a gestalt of many other individual consciousnesses – an unlimited self that is yet able to express itself in many ways and forms and yet maintain its own identity, its own ‘I am-ness’, even while it is aware that its I am-ness may be part of another I am-ness” (103)

While being involved in the transmission of the Seth material for ‘Unknown Reality’ (Vol. 1 and 2) Jane Roberts accomplished other works in parallel, including her own books on ‘Adventures in Consciousness’ (104) and ‘Psychic Politics’. Parts of those books have been produced in a trance state as well, where she received information from various sources (including Seth who was occasionally prompting her) (105) which was then used for the development of her own theory of ‘aspect psychology’. Certain concepts introduced by Seth in ‘Unknown Reality’ are on the other hand advanced versions of some of the ideas developed by Jane Roberts. The production and the content of all the publications at that time were to a certain extent intertwined and interwoven, like counterpart endeavors, up to the point that Seth was occasionally making use of specific terms introduced by Jane Roberts in her own books, such as ‘prejudiced perception’. (106)

As long as we are incarnate we are preoccupied beings, trained and conditioned to focus exclusively on a specific line of probabilities while omitting all others. We have a prejudiced perception, limiting and censoring available information automatically through our mental and neurological habit. The very perception of space-time itself is connected to and a function of our official neurological pulses. (107) Actually, we are not only neurologically prejudiced, we are neurologically blind to all other lines of probabilities, other dimensions, other selves, other realities in which we play an equal part as segments of the larger, multidimensional ‘I’ that we are. Even though these other realities cannot be perceived with our normal senses, they do exist. And they exist horizontally as well as vertically. We are consciousness within consciousness, pattern within pattern, self within self, (108) entity within entity, action within action, person within greater personage (109), identity within identity, gestalt within gestalt, becoming within becoming. Ad infinitum.

Seth: “The unknown reality appears invisible only because you do not accept it in your prime series of events (…) The self as you think of it is literally reborn in each instant, following an infinite number of events from the one official series of events that you recognize at any given ‘time’.” (110)

Seth: “Take for example, Event X. This probable event will be experienced by the various portions of the self in their own way. When it is experienced by your ego, it is a physical event. When it is perceived by other portions of the self, the ego does not know of it. It is actual(ly) all the same and is experienced in variation. The whole self perceives and is affected by probabilities, then, and perceives these as actions whether or not the ego has chosen to accept any given event as physical. The time sequence also varies. Past, present, and future are realities only to your ego. (111)

Modifying our mental and neurological habit would enable us to tune in to different realities and dimensions. We could then build bridges to the state of mind of other entities or persons, living or dead, by matching the frequencies of their thoughts, emotions and experiences. Each person has a specific world view and the world view of any individual, even of those not yet born, exists. ‘Each world view exists in its own particular ‘frequency’ and can be tuned in by those who are more or less within the same range’ (112) - even without that person’s knowledge of what is going on.

By altering the state of her consciousness Jane Roberts (Ruburt) was able to tune in to the world view of the philosopher William James. She had access to an unwritten book that he could have written after his death when he was reflecting on his own life experiences and examining the validity of his own thoughts as a scientist during his life time. The concept for the book he could have written in the afterlife has its firm place in the ‘timeless now’ as ‘a psychic reality, a plan or a model existing in the inward order of activity’. (113)

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Seth: “Ruburt tuned in to that unwritten book. It carried the stamp of James’ emotional state at that ‘time’, when he was viewing his earthly experience, in your terms, from the standpoint of one who had died, could look back, and see where he thought his ideas were valid and where they were not. At that point in his existence, there were changes. The plan for the book existed, and still does. In Ruburt’s ‘present’, he was able to see this world view as expressed within James’s immortal mind.” (114)

The dead philosopher was not even aware that someone ‘from outside’ managed to get access to one of his probable future works. Nevertheless, using her modified state of awareness, Jane Roberts could have ‘downloaded’ the whole book in an instant and compared its contents with the books and ideas William James did produce and did publish during his lifetime in our reality (115). Thus, concepts, ideas and plans do exist in the timeless now, the spacious present, in their own rights, in an ‘inward order of activity’. They have their own reality independent of their materialization through individualized consciousnesses in physical reality. They even exist in their own right independent of any personalized consciousness in non-physical reality. The version of the world view Jane Roberts (Ruburt) was able to plug in was the version of the world view of William James that existed 64 years after his physical death. (116) It may be different from the version he held or could have held ten years earlier, or 50 years later. It was obviously different from his worldview at the time of his death. The book he could have written in the afterlife had even a slightly modified title: ‘The Varieties of the Religious States’ (117). In her altered state Jane Roberts could see a version of the book structured, written, produced and ready for distribution. It was a paperback ‘very small, almost microscopic…and printed on grayish-type paper’. (118)

After death the ego of a deceased person does not disappear but it is assigned a kind of subordinate role by the inner self. The non-physical personality continues with its own development and leaves the ego and the world view of the physical person behind. The disincarnate consciousness maintains its sense of I am-ness and individuality that will never be destroyed, dissolved or annihilated, not even by integration. ‘All-that-is is the creator of individuality, not the means of its destruction’. (119) The former ego takes a back seat within the various layers and components of the self, similar to the role of our subconscious during physical existence, but it can be temporarily re-activated in case of communication between incarnate and disincarnate persons. (120)

According to Seth it is the very process of choosing and selecting probable events - as individualized focus of awareness - by drawing them from the vast bank of unpredictable actions (121) for manifestation and materialization that provides for the sense of ‘I am-ness’ (122), seemingly constant, from one moment of creation and actualization to the next.

Seth: “You have a greater identity outside of your context, yet a part of it is inside your context, as you. Your youness is your significance, a focus of awareness, conscious of itself, that seeks out and views experience with its own unique propensities. The existence of probable realities and probable selves in no way denies the validity of your own experience of individuality. That rides secure, choosing from unpredictable fields of actuality those that suit its own particular nature.

That selfhood jumps in leapfrog fashion over events that it does not want to actualize, and does not admit such experience into its selfhood. Other portions of your greater identity, however, do accept those same events rejected by you, and form their own selfhoods.”

Therefore, the personality seems to be the result of a specific focus of consciousness, projecting itself into physical reality that then – by means of that very specific projection – becomes aware of itself in outer reality as a self, as an identity. A different focus of awareness would experience itself as a different personality with a different identity, possibly living in a different world. There are no limitations but it is necessary to understand that this process is self-referential: consciousness becoming aware of its awareness. Even Seth was struggling at this point when searching for an appropriate analogy (124): 'The physical self as you know it is a focus of consciousness that forms a personality in response to that focus’ (125) In dealing with this paradox he provided the following explanation:

Seth: “When I used the word ‘conscious’ (or ‘consciousness’) I meant it as I thought you understood it. I thought that you meant: conscious of being conscious, or placing yourself on the one hand outside of your consciousness – viewing it and then saying, ‘I am conscious of my consciousness’” (126)

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The paradox can be depicted in form of a spotlight enabling an observer to perceive a limited segment of reality in the darkness and thus become aware of it. When the position of the spotlight is altered, a different portion of the darkness is illuminated, providing for a different range of perception and awareness. It is important to understand that there is necessarily a driving force involved in positioning the light which corresponds to a ‘decision-making’ level from which the physical ‘reality generation process’ is being operated. The operator, i.e. the observer, cannot be separated from the spotlight or the reflections. To be more accurate: the spotlight and the process of becoming aware of the surroundings cannot be separated from the operator and the level from which the observer operates. That’s the paradox.

Seth: “Now I tell you that while the perceiver is changed by what he perceives, he also changes that which is perceived. Perceiver and perception, in a basic manner, are one and the same.” (127)

Seth: “Identity may be termed action which is conscious of itself. For the purposes of our discussion, the terms ‘action’ and ‘identity’ must be separated, but basically no such separation exists. An identity is also a dimension of existence, action within action, an unfolding of action upon itself – and through this interweaving of action with itself, through this reaction, an identity is formed. The energy of action, the workings of action within and upon itself, forms identity. Yet though identity is formed from action, action and identity cannot be separated. Identity, then, is action’s effect upon itself. Without identity, action would be meaningless, for there would be nothing upon action could act. Action must, by its very nature, of itself and its own workings, create identities.” (128)

At this point, finally, it makes sense to refer again to Bashar. As a matter of course he is struggling with the same paradox but his explanation is different. It may thus help shed additional light on the issue:

Bashar: “You are All-That-Is. But you are changing your perspective of where you are within All-that-is, within the All-that-is that you are. You are looking from another perspective from within All-that-is at itself.” (129)

Thus, you are You on all levels, the personality level, the level of the higher mind, the soul level, the level of the oversoul, etc. (130) You are an eternal, indestructible part of All-that-is, i.e. your ‘I’-version of All-that-is, having taken the decision to deliberately forget who you are in order to rediscover who you are from a new perspective. In doing so and by immersing yourself in a specific 3D ‘reality generating process’, created and maintained by the physicalized reflections of your beliefs, emotions and thoughts, you contribute a series of individual experiences that All-that-is otherwise wouldn’t have had, thereby enriching and augmenting creation in a unique way.

The static reality frames that we activate, moment for moment for moment, work as a reflective mirror, a reference point to have something to compare us to. They inform us accurately about our current state of being by providing a picture of our current beliefs, emotions and thoughts. But in a more basic sense they allow us to become aware of ourselves as independent consciousness within All-that-is (Bashar), as ‘I am-ness’ (Seth), consciousness being aware of itself in creation as creator. The frames project the illusion of an ‘outer reality’ that we recognize as separate from us, as ‘other’, as ‘not-self’, and it is this state of awareness of an ‘other’ that allows us to have the idea, the concept, of ‘self’, in the sense of ‘not-otherness’. ‘Consciousness is literally self-reflection, self-awareness, the ability to know the self by knowing what is not the self. (131)

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According to Bashar, existence itself is one homogenous, unbroken unity, the ‘One’. There is nothing outside of existence, non-existence doesn’t exist. As there is nothing outside of existence, the ‘One’ doesn’t know itself as itself, as there is no reference point, no reflection for it. But a part of the ‘One’ became that version of existence that does know itself as existence, as being everything in existence. It is aware if itself as existence by creating a reflection of itself within itself. It is aware of itself as All-that-is. By creating patterns of resonance of energy, All-that-is creates ‘otherness’ within itself and thus becomes aware of itself by comparing itself to the reflection of itself that it creates. Thus, All-that-is is the first reflection within the ‘One’ of itself to itself. It is where consciousness and awareness come from. Without the reflection, there is no expression of consciousness, there is no self-awareness. (132)

Bashar: “You have no sense of self unless there is a sense of other. So the idea is that the reflection is what creates self-awareness. Without the reflection there is no self-awareness, there is no expression of consciousness. The ‘One’, the unbroken ‘One’ has no self-awareness, but the first reflection of itself to itself is where consciousness and awareness come from. And that’s what we call All-that-is. It’s the portion of the non-experiential, unaware ‘One’ that is actually aware of itself as everything.” (133)

And in the terms of Seth: “All energy is not only aware-ized but the source of all organizations of consciousness, and all physical forms.” (134)

Both, Bashar and Seth describe a hologram from the inside. While Bashar is referring explicitly to the holographic structure of existence, Seth does so rather indirectly when mentioning the nested character of creation. But even without using the terms ‘holographic’ or ‘hologram’ the idea that all of the information of the whole (All-that-is) is contained in and available to its tiniest parts, is clearly the bedrock of Seth’s metaphysical teachings. And these infinitesimal parts, the units of consciousness, are in turn able to make full use of this information even to the point of fully reconstructing the whole.

Seth: “Each portion of consciousness is a part of All-that-is (…) and each portion of consciousness carries within it indelibly the knowledge of the whole.” (135)

Seth: ‘If – and that is impossible – all portions but the most minute last ‘unit’ of All-that-is were destroyed, All-that-is would continue, for within the smallest portion is the innate knowledge of the whole. All-that-is protects itself, therefore, and all that It has and is and will create.” (136)

The holographic principle is characterized by Seth as a security mechanism permeating the entirety of creation to ensure that no part of existence can ever be inadvertently lost or forgotten. All-that-is protects itself and therefore all of its creation could be re-established from the innate knowledge of the whole that is indelibly enshrined in its smallest portions, the units of consciousness that are the building blocks of creation. This principle applies to all levels in creation, including cells and molecules. (137) They are conscious entities (138) that possess individuality. (139)

The body is therefore composed of conscious cells and molecules that are aware of themselves. The self, using the body, is constantly growing and evolving in terms of value fulfillment. It is actually unlimited and connected to the rest of creation. Being a fragment of All-that-is ‘the self could theoretically expand his consciousness to contain the universe and everything in it.’ (140)

Seth:” There is a portion of All-that-is directed and focused within each individual, residing within each consciousness. Each consciousness is, therefore, cherished and individually protected. This portion of overall consciousness is individualized within you.” (141)

Jane Roberts: “Right now I think I’m getting that everybody on the face of the Earth is related – that your consciousness is in an ant, or a rock or a tree, but that we’re not used to thinking this way. Not that one is superior to another – just that we are all connected- that there is some kind of weird familiarity, biologically and psychically, that we have never gotten consciously”. (142)

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Thus, in reflecting on the material provided by Seth over years, Robert Butts and Jane Roberts were definitely open to the idea of a holographic universe, but Seth had never been clearly using related terminology in his transmissions. (143)

Bashar describes the structure of existence explicitly as holographic. We are all individualized and autonomous ‘I’-aspects of All-that-is, expressing ourselves currently in a limited form as parts of All-that-is. Every part contains the whole and all the parts together form the whole. No part can be left outside. Otherwise All-that-is would not be All-that-is, it would be incomplete, ‘not-all-that-is’. But there is no space for any part outside of All-that-is. All-that-is is existence itself and non-existence doesn’t exist. He illustrated this principle occasionally by referring to an ancient Vedic symbol called Indra’s net, an infinitely large grid of pearls where each pearl is at any moment perfectly reflecting the image of all the other pearls and vice versa (144). When you put a black dot on one of the pearls, all the other pearls are immediately ‘affected’ in that they automatically contain that specific additional piece of information and shine it back. Thus, Indra’s net is an ancient representation of the idea of a hologram, using mechanical means. We are all individualized ‘pearls’, informational nodal points, containing the knowledge of the whole about all of its parts, all other aspects of creation. But we do have our own perspective and our own identity, and we always will. At all levels.

Bashar:” You are All-that-is, each of you is All-it-is, expressing itself as a part of All-that-is. This is what you call the holographic principle in your new technological language. Every part contains the whole, every part contains the whole. The whole can create itself to be experienced as parts, but every part contains the whole. This was illustrated as we have talked about before in the past as a symbol called ‘Indra’s net’ which is like looking at a lattice work of perfectly round reflective pearls. Each pearl reflects every other pearl in the net. So in order to gain access to all the information of the entire net all you actually have to do is look at any one pearl. You can see all the other pearls in it. Every single one of you is such a pearl. You reflect all the other pearls.” (145)


(1) Bashar, ‘Your Indestructible Core’, 2016; (2) Seth, session #82; (3) Bashar, ‘Parables and Time Crystals’, 2018; (4) References to specific Bashar sessions are indicated by the title of the session and the year of that session, possibly amended by a time-stamp. References to the specific Seth sessions are indicated by the number of the session. These numbers are continuing and stretched out over numerous publications, some of which can be found as epubs on the internet. They can also be acquired commercially as is the case with the Bashar sessions; (5) Bashar, ‘Our Future in the 21st Century’, 2002 at 1:24:00; (6) Bashar claims to be 137 years old, living 2700 years in our future, in: ‘Matter of Faith Intensive’, 2007 (00:03:50); (7) Bashar, ‘A Step Along The Way’, 2021 (0:25:00); (8) ‘Act on your highest excitement to the best you can, every moment, with no insistence as to the outcome , and remain in a positive state, no matter what the outcome is.’; (9) Law no. 1: ‘You exist’, Law no. 2: ‘Everything is here and now’ , Law no. 3: ‘The ‘One’ is All, the all are ‘One’, Law no. 4: ‘What you put out is what you get back’, Law no. 5: ‘Everything changes except the first four Laws’; (10) “Thoughts are consciousness and in that sense consciousness is the particle, is what creates the particle. Thoughts are the particle moving in a certain pattern, within the matrix that makes you up.”, Bashar, in: ‘Bashar’s Lab’, 2008, Vol. 1 (0:26:00); (11) Bashar, ‘How the Oversoul Works’, Vol. 2 (0:14:50); (12) Bashar, ‘Bashar’s Lab’, 2008, Vol. 1 (0:15:00); (13) Bashar, ‘Mirror, Mirror’, 2021, Vol.1 (1:07:00); (14) Bashar, ‘Bashar’s Lab’, 2008 (Vol.1); (15) If one single unit of Planck time was stretched to one second, one real second would last longer than 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 times the age of the universe; (16) Bashar: “You collapse to the zero point, the neutral point”, in: ‘Diving Deeper Into the Nine Levels of Consciousness’, 2011, Vol.1 (1:00:00); (17) Bashar, ‘Nine Levels of Consciousness’, 2011, Vol.3; (18) Bashar, ‘Bashar’s Lab’, 2008 (Vol.1); (19) Bashar, ‘Shifting Through Infinity’, 2010, Vol.1 (0:57:00); (20) Bashar, ‘The Silver

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Cord’, 2023, Vol.1 (0:17:00); (21) Bashar, ‘The Span’, 2009; (22) Bashar, ‘Beyond the Secrets’, 2007, Vol. 1 (1:07:00); (23) Bashar, ‘Shifting Through Infinity’, 2010, Vol.1; (24) Bashar, ‘Shifting Through Infinity’, 2010, Vol.1; (25) Bashar, ‘3rd Reality’, 2007, Vol. 3 (0:20:00); (26) Bashar, ‘Resonance and Reflection’, 2012, Vol.1 (0:20:00); (27) Bashar: ‘The Two Paths to AI’, 2023, Vol.1 (0:55:00); (28) Bashar, ‘Matter of Faith Intensive’, 2007, Vol.3 (0:18:00); (29) Bashar, ‘Matter of Faith Intensive’, 2007, Vol.3 (0:17:00); (30) Bashar: “A zero point only experiences its own existence, it is as close as you can come to the concept of non-existence, because it cannot become non-existent, but it is as close as you can get within existence, it is the very zero moment of existence itself, the very essence of existence itself, the ‘I am’ – realization” , in: ‘Matter of Faith Intensive’, 2007, Vol. 2 (0:11:00); (31) Bashar, ‘Nine Levels of Consciousness’, 2011; (32) Bashar, ‘Beyond The Secrets’, 2007, Vol. 2 (0:50:00); (33) Bashar, ‘Nine Levels of Consciousness’, 2011, Vol.3; (34) Bashar, ‘The Parallel Reality Wheel’, 2020, Vol.1 (0:08:00); (35) Bashar, ‘Total Impact’, 2005, Vol. 2 (0:17:00); (36) Bashar, ‘Building the Bridge to Ascension’, 2012, Vol. 1 (0:31:00); (37) Such as session #604; (38) Seth, session #58; (39) Seth, session #711, see also annex 21 in UR 2, last paragraph; in addition, Jane Roberts and Robert Butts are counterparts; (40) Seth, session #464; (41) i.e. Jane Roberts; ‘Ruburt’ is the name of her own entity which is predominantly male by character according to Seth; (42) Seth, session #464; (43) Seth, session #725; (44) Jane Roberts: ‘The Seth Material’, Chapter 17; (45) Seth, session #711; (46) Seth, session #711; (47) Seth, session #42; (48) Seth, session #886; (49) Seth, session #60; (50) Seth, session #530; (51) Seth, session #530; (52) Seth, session #712; (53) Seth, session #740; (54) “Your bodies are probable-constructs in that they exist only because of the atoms’ appearance at certain points of probability”, Seth, session #694; (55) Seth, session #713; (56) Inside consciousness; (57) Seth, session #716; (58) Seth, session #716; (59) Seth, session #730; (60) Seth, session #681; (61) Seth, session #680; (62) Seth, session #721; (63) Jane Roberts: ‘The Seth Material’, Chapter 15; (64) Seth, session #742; (65) Seth, session #744; (66) Seth: ‘Unknown Reality’, appendix no.12, annotation no.13; (67) “Everything on your plane is a materialization of something that exists independent of your plane”, Seth in session #14; (68) Seth, session #686; (69) “The source reality out of which all else springs”, in: Seth, session #685; (70) “Any investigation of the basic inner universe which is the only real universe, must be done as much as possible from a point outside your own distortions, but the only way open for you to escape the distortions of your own physical universe is to journey inward. To get outside your own universe, you must travel inward, and this represents the only perspective free of distortive elements, from which valid experimentation can be carried out. Your so-called scientific, so-called objective experiments can continue for an eternity, but they only probe further and further with camouflage instruments into a camouflage universe.”, in: Seth, session #45; (71) Seth, session #685; (72) Seth, session #626; (73) Seth, session #614; (74) Seth, session #711; (75) Seth, session #711; (76) Seth, session #614; (77) Seth, session #51; (78) Seth, session #64; “…significant to the bug in terms quite incomprehensible to you”, session #64; (79) Seth, session #64; (80) “Although time does not basically exist as you ‘know’ it, you are neurologically forced to perceive your life as a series of passing moments”, Seth, session #656; (81) Seth, session #742; (82) Seth, session #721; (83) Seth, session #653; (84) Seth, session #733; (85) Seth, session #688; (86) Seth, session #728; (87) Seth is using a variety of different designations for the ‘decision-making-level’ with regard to individual incarnations, such as ‘entity’, ‘psyche’, ‘greater you’, ‘greater self’, or ‘greater identity’ : “So this hypothetical greater identity also chooses to be born in different time periods, historically speaking; and the same pattern appears in which counterparts are born as individuals, each biologically and spiritually connected, but with great intertwinings and variations, as with a physical family tree.”, session #724; (88) Seth: ‘Unknown Reality’, Annex 22; (89) Seth, session #567; (90) Seth, session #565; (91) Bashar, ‘Bashar’s Birthday Gift’, 2017; (92) Seth, sessions #729, #731, #910; (93) Seth, session #680; (94) Seth, session #248; (95) Seth, session #248; (96) Seth, session #248; (97) Seth, session #722; (98) Seth, session #681; (99) Seth, session #653; (100) Seth, session #654; (101) Seth, session #248; (102) Source information, in: Jane Roberts, ‘Psychic Politics, An Aspect Psychology Book’, 1976, Chapter 14; (103) Seth, session #528; (104) Jane Roberts: ‘Adventures in Consciousness: An Introduction to Aspect Psychology’, 1975; (105) Seth, in ‘Unknown Reality’, Appendix 23; (106 Seth: “In his own new book (Politics) Ruburt has his own personal way of explaining what he is experiencing and since he shares the same reality with you, then you will be able to relate – perhaps better, even – to his explanations than to mine.”, session #718; (107) Seth, session #686; (108) Seth, preface to ‘Unknown Reality’, Vol.1; (109) Seth, session #724; (110) Seth, session #741; (111) Jane Roberts: ‘The Seth Material’, Chapter 15; (112) Seth, session #718; (113) Seth, session #718; (114) Seth, session #718; (115) William James (1842- 1910) was a philosopher, historian and psychologist. He is considered to be one of the most influential philosophers of the United States and the ‘Father of American psychology’ (Wikipedia); (116) Seth, session #718, annotation no. 5;

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(117) The title of the book William James published in our reality during his lifetime was ‘The Varieties of Religious Experience’, London 1908, (Longmans and Green); (118) Seth, session #718; (119) Seth, session #590; (120) Seth, ‘Unknown Reality’, Appendix 18; (121) Seth, session #682; (122) Seth, session #528; (123) Seth, session #682; (124) ‘It is very difficult to make analogies here, but I am foolhardy enough to try it”, Seth, in session #730; (125) Seth, session #730; (126) Seth, session #718; (127) Seth, session #462; (128) Jane Roberts, ‘The Seth Material, Chapter 16; (129) Bashar, ‘Your Indestructible Core’, 2016; (130) Bashar, ‘Mistaken Identity’,2015, Vol.2 (0:43:00); Bashar, ‘The Nine levels of Consciousness’, 2011, Vol.1; (131) Bashar, ‘The Structure of Existence’, 2017; (132) Bashar, ‘Parables and Time Crystals’, 2018; (133) Bashar, ‘Parables and Time Crystals’, 2018; (134) Seth, session #872; (135) Seth, session #882; (136) Jane Roberts: ‘The Seth Material’, Chapter 18; (137) “Each portion, by whatever name, contains within it the latent potentials of the whole”, Seth, in: session #735; (138) “We have said that to some degree even atoms and molecules have consciousness and each those minute conscousnesses forms its own dreams, even as on the other hand each one forms its own physical image”, Seth, in: session #698; (139) Seth, session #55; (140) Seth, session #55; (141) Jane Roberts: ‘The Seth Material’, Chapter 18; (142) Seth, session #725; (143) ‘Jane and I agreed with the ancient idea that ‘all seeming divisions reflect positions of a unified whole’, we also think that in some fashion the whole is enclosed within each of the parts. Science calls the idea holonomy, but Seth has been saying the same thing for years without ever mentioning the word. Jane didn’t even know it.”, in: ‘Dreams, ‘Evolution’, and Value Fulfillment’: A Seth Book, Vol. 1, Essay #8; (144) ... snet+photo; (145) Bashar, ‘Matter of Faith Intensive’, 2007

Literature and further reading:
• Bashar: ‘The Masters of Limitation’ at
• Campbell, Tom: ‘How the World Really Works’ at:
• Elan (together with Bashar): ‘Your Power on a Plate’ at:
• Helfrich, Paul: “Seth on ‘The Origins of the Universe and of the Species’ - An Integral Conscious Creation Myth’ at: /Helfrich_P_Seth_on_a_Conscious_Creation_Myth.pdf
• Talbot, Michael: ‘The Holographic Universe’ at: ... ael_Talbot
• Furthermore, some Bashar snippets can be found here: viewtopic.php?t=2609

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Please find below a link to an illustrated version of the text. The text remained unchanged but the following quote has been added on page 14:

Seth: ‘You think of one I-self as a primary and ultimate end of evolution. Yet there are, of course, other identities with many such I-selves, each as aware and independent as your own, while also being aware of the existence of a greater identity in which they have their being. Consciousness fulfills itself by knowing itself. The knowledge changes it, in your terms, into a greater gestalt that then tries to fulfill and know itself, and so forth’.

This is a description/circumscription of the self-organising principle or paradigm. ... kiawp&dl=0

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Hi. I thought I could produce a part B of the article, comparing two outstanding illustrations, one of Bashar (the `nine levels of consciousness´ above) and one illustration depicting the entity, the larger self that Seth is constantly talking about, which seems to be at the same time the soul and the oversoul as well. ( ... onal-self/).

If everything that Seth is saying is correct (Bashar) one would assume that it should be possible to lay nine concentric circles over the Seth flower with the petals which symbolize single and individual incarnations, based on various layers of the subconscious (the smaller square boxes) that include the experiences of `previous incarnations´ that are not you. The square boxes would then be corresponding somehow to the higher levels in Bashar´s system (Bashar: It´s up, not sub).

However, when Seth explained the construction of reality in ´Dreams, Evolution and Value Fulfilment´, basically Vol. 1, he explained the layers rather historically . He did actually mention `other layers´ of the self that would be involved in the various decision-making processes, i.e. relevant for choosing specific options for materialization from the vast bank of latent possibilities. But the information is too vague to work on a full-fledged comparison. Furthermore, Seth included the beginning and the emerging of our universe/multiverse, something that Bashar did not when explaining his nine levels of consciousness. Thus, for the time being, such a comparison cannot really be produced. By far too thin, the ice.

If you use the Seth search engine you can go for `persona´ and `gestalt´ and you get immediately very informative material that helps to bring bits and pieces of the Seth cosmology together. You get for example the statement that `a gestalt, once formed, will never get less than it once was´.

The teachings of Seth are about a nested universe/multiverse that is composed of consciousness units (CUs) at various layers of organization. They are the smallest building blocks in creation and form larger entities. They can operate in wave or particle form. In physical reality, they are transformed (after undergoing endles intermediary steps) into electromagnetic units/psychological energy units. As long as you are physical, You exist as a conglomerate of such CUs that are being transformed into electromagnetic units (EEUs), the basic building blocks of subatomic particles. After death you exist again as a conglomerate of CUs – without the intermediary step of the EEUs. Thus you exist as a conglomerate of CUs before physicalization as well as afterwards. Once you have left the 3D reality, you are a formation, a gestalt, an entity, composed of consciousness (consciousness units), but you are no longer particle-ized. You operate in wave-form as conglomerate of CUs. As long as you are physical you are particle-ized. Seth operates in wave form. He is not particle-ized.

Creation is about constantly forming higher and higher levels of such consciousness conglomerates, the gestalts. But once gestalts have been formed by CUs, the gestalts continue with their own development. They never become less (Seth). They can and do become more. Mammals reincarnate at the level of mammals. Thus a cat consciousness can become a dog, a mouse, or an elephant. But not a human being. Seth explicitely differentiates between mammals and humans. Once mammals have reached the stage where they can transform into a larger entity (based on value fulfillment), their consciousness leaves the level oft the mammals and materializes on the level of a higher entity, as a larger `gestalt´, presumably (or possibly) a human. The newly emerged human, i.e. the former cat cannot become a cat anymore. (The projection of a part of Seth´s consciousness into a dog fragment seems to be something different).

He emphasizes that humans did not evolve from animals. Their consciousness formation did. Our universe has been created by a gestalt of consciousness which is so big and superior that it can not materialize itself fully in 3d. It is what we call `God´. Parts of it have to remain constantly outside of the universe/multiverse as that entity, the deity, ist too large for materializing fully in the universe/ multiverse as we know it (our Framework 1).

Once entities managed to know themselves by way of value filfilment they transform into larger gestalts that then try to know themselves and evolve. And so forth (Seth). Thus, it may be plausible to assume that we are all such God-like entities in statu nascendi. Ultimately we will reach that level as well, but for the time being we are limited and experiencing our own issues in 3D. Once we have reached the level of deities, the initial deity (the idea of our old Creator God as a much superior gestalt) will have already evolved further upwards. All gestalts are upwardly mobile ad infinitum. That´s their ultimate task and destiny. That´s what creation is all about - based on value fulfilment. The development of entities such as ourselves into larger and larger gestalts corresponds to the topic of the `nursery of Gods´ that has been occasionally promoted in Jane Roberts own writings.

In her appartment, the cat Willie was constructing a bug on the wall. The bug on the wall was constructing a cat. Jane Roberts and Robert Butts did construct a bug, a cat, a chair, a table and themselves. Thus, there were four bugs, four cats, four chairs, four tables, four Jane Roberts, four Robert Butts. And they were all different. They were all either primary or secondary constructions. The primary construction formed by an entity (the self-image created by the cat, the self-image created by the bug, the self-image created by an individual person, etc.) is the manifestation of an idea of a person, animal or object. Cat, bug, Jane Roberts, Robert Butts were in addition sharing telepathic information that was used for the creation of a surrounding that seemed to be plausible in terms of a commonly shared environment, despite significant differences in detail (the co-creation of the bug by the cat in its own reality, the co-creation of the cat by the bug in its own reality, the co-creation of the cat by Jane Roberts in her own reality, the co-creation of Jane Roberts by Robert Butts in his own reality). If the individual construction of energy into matter is not performed correctly a black garden hose could turn into a black vicious snake, but that is extremely unlikely (Seth). The reflection of a seemingly commonly shared outer environment is provided by the higher mind in Bashar´s system. The explanation provided by Seth is ´telepathy and other means´.

Session 71: „A primary construction is a psychic gestalt, formed into matter by a consciousness of itself. Such a primary construction is an attempt to create, in the world of matter, a replica of the inner psychic construction of the whole self. (…) Secondary physical constructions are those created by a consciousness of its conception of other consciousnesses, from data received through telepathy and other means.“

Thus there are consciousness units that cling together to form a self-image of an entity (small, bigger, again bigger, etc.), e.g. atom, molecule, cell, organ, etc. as a primary construction and there are consciousness units that help form the same entities as secondary constructions in a commonly shared endeavor. But they are in turn also their own primary constructions and primary constructors as well.

It looks that in the process of forming larger and larger `gestalts´of consciousness, the consciousness units that form the primary construction become more numerous. They cling together as `like-minded´ partners, at the same time separating themselves as `gestalt´ from what is not the `gestalt´, i.e. what is `other´. But they may still participate in the construction of `what is other´ as secondary constructors, not as primary constructors. The higher the organizational form evolves as a `gestalt´ the more consciousness units are involved in the primary construction and the less are involved in the secondary construction. Ultimately, once you have reached the level of the deity as a `gestalt´ you cover the universe and everything in it (Seth) as a full-fledged primary construction. At that stage everything is a primary construction. You are God. You are the creator of everything.
To avoid misunderstandings: This is what I think at the moment, it´s a hypothesis. I think that´s basically Seth´s cosmology. It´s cybernetics. To the extent possible, one should examine that avenue further, based on the information provided by Seth. Actually he was using the term `unit´ in singular form for larger entities as well, i.e. a unit composed of thousands of CUs, units composed of thousands of individual units.

I thought I could produce a cybernetic analysis of the Seth material, but it´s too risky. First of all, terminology used has changed over time, and secondly, Seth was even playing with Robert Butts, especially when it came to the crucial term CUs more than a decade after it had been first introduced, looking in a mischievous way whether Robert Butts was clever enough to come forward with the proper gut feeling, the proper associations and the appropriate intellectual conclusion (`Dreams… ´, Vol. 1). In the end the usage of this term has not even been authoritatively clarified. Thus, such a cybernetic analysis cannot really be produced. The ice is too thin. But my personal gut feeling says it´s exactly that way. Because it makes sense. It would be logical and it would be extremely elegant.

The level of the larger gestalt of mammals would or could be human. Or something else. Seth provided at least that differentiation in generic terms. Humans are not mammals according to him. It remains however unclear what the next level would or could be for humans. There may be intermediary steps as well, which are rather topics, themes, or ideas: e.g. a Napoleon composed of a few hundred or thousand of Napoleon-incarnations. The topic might be `Napoleonism´ then. (I don´t mean Bonapartism, but it could be that as well.). According to Bashar whales are physicalized representations of oversouls of dolphins, the largest entities that can materialize in 3d. Sooner or later the next level would be the soul/oversoul. In Seth´s terminology a soul corresponds to what an oversoul is in Bashar´s system. An organizational form of consciousness in charge of millions or more individual incarnations. Possibly infinite. According to Bashar a soul is rather narrowly linked to an individual incarnation. It is a sub-set of an oversoul, an individualized, single extension.

According to Seth there is an infinite number of infinitesimal units of consciousness, all representing All-that-is, all being fragments of All-that-is, all containing the entire knowledge of All-that-is, all being endowed with the creative power of All-that-is. Thus it could be that creation is basically about forming an infinite number of such deities as primary constructions, a system where every single unit is finally a deity but also part of secondary constructions in an infinite number of other reality constructions. Again: the idea of a hologram. Every unit of consciousness would finally be an individualized `I´- version of All-that-is (Bashar). And as time does not exist you may have already reached that level, but you took the decision to forget it.